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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- February 8th, 1993
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
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- These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
- by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
- iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
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- 1) Administrivia
- o Role Call
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Approval of the Minutes
- - January 25th
- - February 1st
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o Token Ring to Historic
- o Token Bus to Historic
- o Directed ARP to Experimental
- o NFS to Historic
- o RPC to Historic
- o IP Address Guidelines to Proposed Standard
- o Lightweight Directory Access Protocol to Proposed Standard
- String Representation of Attribute Syntax
- o Network Time Protocol
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o FTP (Secure) Working Group formation
- o ROAD Status Check
- o BOF Policy
- o SNMP Security
- o RIP Applicability Statement
- o Wide Area Routing with RIP
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- 5) Working Group Actions
- o IP Security (ipsec)
- o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
- o Training Materials
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Minutes
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- The minutes of the January 25th meeting were approved.
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- o Personnel Announcement
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- Chuck Davin announced that he will be unable to continue to serve
- as the Area Director for Network Management. He felt that given the
- timing with the selection committee currently meeting to fill open
- slots that this would be the best time to step down.
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- IESG members expressed their regret that Chuck would not be
- continuing with his fine service to the community as a member of the
- IESG.
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- o Next Meeting
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- The next IESG teleconference was scheduled for February 22nd, 11:30 ET.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o Token Ring
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- A Last Call to move the Token Ring MIB to Historic was sent to the
- IETF list. A number of responses was received indicating widespread
- implementation and production use.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a new last call to elevate the Token Ring MIB to
- Draft Standard.
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- o Token Bus
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- There was no objection to the last call moving this MIB to
- Historic.
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- o Directed ARP
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- The IPLPDN Working Group was queried about the support within the
- Working Group for this proposal. The Working Group felt this was
- a specific deliverable, and is in fact one of the few listed in the
- Goals and Milestones.
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- ACTION: Piscitello -- Work with George Clapp and update the IPLPDN
- Working Group charter to reflect the current specific work items.
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- o NFS/ RPC
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- There was no additional information to report.
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- o Network Time Protocol
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- The IESG reviewed the Network Time Protocol Version 3 and approved
- it for Draft Standard. It has taken the IESG time to resolve the
- numerous issues with this protocol, including the postscript-primary
- nature, determining the degree to which this is a new protocol
- beyond Version 2, and difficulty in ascertaining the community
- interest and requirement for this protocol without a Working
- Group. With an external review coordinated by Russ Hobby, the IESG was
- satisfied that the requirements for Draft Standard were met.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the IESG acceptance of the Network Time
- Protocol as a Draft Standard.
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- The standards process for evolution of full standard protocols is
- not entirely clear. Many protocols can be extended by the
- definition of new options, which themselves go through the standards
- process without effecting the base protocol. Extensions are
- incremental, backward interoperable changes to the base protocol,
- possibly with negotiation, and some extensions require incompatible
- changes that are not directly interworkable requiring support of
- multiple versions. A discussion on what changes (if any) to the
- process may be needed was scheduled for a future meeting.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Schedule a discussion about the process for the
- evolution of an Internet Standard protocol.
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- o Lightweight Directory Access Protocol and
- String Representation of Standard Attribute Syntax
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- With Erik Huizer, the IESG determined that it was reasonable to
- consider these two documents to be a single standard. It was
- understood that the String Representation may be useful in
- additional contexts beyond use for the Lightweight Directory Access
- protocol and should remain a separate document.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the IESG acceptance of the Lightweight
- Directory Access Protocol and the String Representation of Standard
- Attribute Syntax as a Proposed Standard.
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o BOF Policy
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- The IESG completed a BOF policy on the mailing list prior to the
- meeting. This policy was approved and will be announced to the
- IETF-announce list and in the Internet Monthly Report.
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- ACTION: SCoya -- Announce the BOF Policy to the IETF-Announce mailing
- list.
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- o Secure FTP
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- Steve Crocker was not present for this discussion. The IESG accepts
- the necessity for a Working Group chartered narrowly to provide
- extensions to FTP for security. While there exists some need for
- general extensions, the IESG was not prepared to undertake a re-work
- of FTP at this time.
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- ACTION: SCrocker (In absentia) -- Form Secure FTP Working Group.
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- o ROAD Status
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- The IESG had earlier discussed a February 15th milestone for the
- posting of test implementations of the Various New-IP protocols.
- With the responses from the IETF that an arbitrary decision is not
- warranted, the status of the specific milestones is in doubt. It
- still appears reasonable to set milestones and then offering
- feedback based on them.
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- ACTION: Knowles -- Review the responses to the IESG and send a summary
- to the IESG with a draft next step statement for the IESG.
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- o SNMP Security
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- Steve Crocker has consulted with Marshall Rose, Chuck Davin, and Jim
- Galvin in an effort to identify the specific issues. The technical
- issues are quite muddled and it appears that the process is
- being driven hard to reach closure, possibly without considering all
- issues. What is clear is that SNMP Security is intended to be a
- central feature of SNMP Version 2. The possibility of continued
- existence of SNMP Security for SNMP Version 1 appears to have caused
- proposals for the revised SNMP Security specification to be bound to
- SNMP Version 2 in such a way as to prevent independent evolution. The
- resulting changes may have an impact in the ability of SNMP Version
- 2 to scale.
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- It was again noted and acknowledged by the Security Area Director
- that the SNMP Security Working Group has not scheduled a meeting for
- the Columbus IETF meeting.
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- 4) RFC Editor actions
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- The RFC Editor received the position from the IESG that all
- standards track protocols should include a statement of patent
- considerations. The SMTP Extensions documents do not have this
- section. The IESG agreed that the patent considerations section is
- still useful but enforcement of this requirement does not make sense
- until after the revision of RFC 1310 outlines the specific
- requirements for disclosure.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify Postel that the inclusion of the patent
- considerations section will not be required until after the publication
- of the revision to RFC 1310.
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- Appendix -- Summary of Actions Taken
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a new last call for the Token Ring MIB to
- Draft Standard.
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- ACTION: Piscitello -- Work with George Clapp and update the IPLPDN
- Working Group charter to reflect the current specific work items.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the IESG acceptance of the Network Time
- Protocol as a Draft Standard.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Schedule a discussion about the process for the
- evolution of an Internet Standard protocol.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the IESG acceptance of the Lightweight
- Directory Access Protocol and the String Representation of Standard
- Attribute Syntax as a Proposed Standard.
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- ACTION: SCoya -- Announce the BOF Policy to the IETF-Announce mailing
- list.
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- ACTION: Knowles -- Review the responses to the IESG and send a summary
- to the IESG with a draft next step statement for the IESG.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify Postel that the inclusion of the patent
- considerations section will not be required until after the publication
- of the revision to RFC 1310.
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